The following is from a feminist blog about cartoon character Dora the Explorer:
Just as Dora presents a positive image to young girls, she does so for boys as well and this has been ignored in the outrage over the image change. When my boys watch and embrace Dora, they learn that masculinity is not the center of the universe even though so many things around them attempt to confirm this as a universal truth. It further becomes apparent to them that girls don’t all want to play dress up and mommy; they want to have adventures as well.
If we want boys to grow and believe that girls are their equals, positive images of femininity are extremely important. When feminists write we constantly say that sexism hurts men to but often this is just lipservice and no real analysis emerges to explore this theme. I waited patiently for someone to speak about Dora’s effect on boys but alas it was not to be. It seems that femininity has completely claimed her and by so doing we have ignored the mass appeal she has to both boys and girls.
My comment: there is absolutely nothing wrong with bemoaning the under-representation of female role models in cartoons. But while our feminist sisters have a conniption because girl cartoon characters are underrepresented, many of these same women are silent about -- or worse, they are perfectly OK with -- the reality that countless boys and girls spend the most critical portions of their lives, at home and in school, without a significant, day-to-day male role model.
Staggering numbers of children are being raised by just a woman or two women, and are being taught in our schools by virtually all women. Study after study confirms the incontrovertible fact that a host of social maladies result from the absence of dads in the home.
But very few feminists think the "under-representation" of day-to-day male role models in children's lives is a significant problem. Sadly, some feminists celebrate this reality as a form of twisted "empowerment."
But try and show them a cartoon without female role models . . . . Now that's a national crisis.
And that, my friends, tells you everything you need to know about the toxic myopia that infects mainstream feminism -- a myopia that sees sexism against women oozing from every crevice but that refuses to acknowledge that the marginalization of men --by women, not some artificial "patriarchy" construct -- can be every bit as, or more, harmful.
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The reason why there are relatively few male primary school teachers in the UK today, is because of the pedophilia hysteria of the 1990's.
Men here are now so afraid that someone will think of them as 'odd' or that there must be something going on, that they wont go near children.
It was a media campaign (TV, and popular trash newspapers) reporting daily on hordes of hysterical women charging around housing estates with placards, shouting at the tops of their voices.
But make no mistake, the 'ordinary' women in the UK was complicit. They knew what was happening, but they stayed quiet, because, I believe, they wanted to frighten men into submission, and thus be able to do whatever it was wanted to do, without criticism from men.
This was a power game to destabilize men, and it worked.
But what really amazes me is the fact that women either cannot see (unlikely), or do not care (my belief) , that they are harming the next generation of children by attacking men in this way.
I believe this can be explained because women are selfish. Nature made them that way. They only care about themselves and their own children. They dont care about your children (even when they look as if they do).
Men, on the other hand, care about everybodys children, and this has been used against men, to suggest that there must be something 'wrong' with a man if he takes an interest in a childs education or welfare.
I believe this to be a concious attack on men, which has the effect of keeping men inline.
The problem with this attack is that its now harming children because its at such an hysterical level, men do not want to get involved.
My husband grew up in a home where his sister was revered, and he was consider little more than a nuisance.
His sister's favorite childhood memory was when the tow of them would be in trouble for something, the father would send her brother into his room for a whipping with a belt. When her father came to her room, he closed the door, told her to pretend to cry while he hit her bed.
While this may sound 'harmless' to some, his sister spent a lifetime repeating this performance in one way or another.
If he wanted a car, he got a job and paid for it. She was given a car. He served combat duty in Viet Nam to pay for college. Her parent's paid out of state tuition because her boyfriend was out of state. His parents belittled the small house he could afford to buy, while making a down payment on a nice large home for his sister.
It was OK -it was character building.
His marriage was good and hers was not, so she did things to cause rife in his marriage - after all, he wasn't allowed to have it better than her. When his kids turned out to be wonderful and successful, and hers had personality disorders and drug problems, she falsely accused his son of molesting her daughter.
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i say, spoiled children become needy, helpless adults.
I agree with everything you said for the most part. The thing is, if you rely on feminists to seriously concentrate to male issues, you're in for a dissapointment. I feel that if you want an issue that pertains mainly to men (such as what you're discussing) to be valued and looked into, MEN are going to have to be the ones to bring it out into the open, just like how feminists brought women's issues to the forefront (although much more is discussed besides women's issues).
For example, instead of focusing on feminism as the culprit, also look into society's role in some of the issues that males face, like the lack of male role models and the cases of men abandoning their families or not taking respondsibility.
Now about the patriarchy, here an explaination from a feminism101 blog: http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/faq-isnt-the-patriarchy-just-some-conspiracy-theory-that-blames-all-men-even-decent-men-for-womens-woes/
Just want to see your response to what the link says. Call it curiousity.
In the end, I'm just trying to be more well rounded when it comes to social issues.
I think WOMEN need to bring this issue to the forefront. As mothers of MALES they have a vested interest in making the world a better place for children of BOTH genders.
It was with the support of WHITE people the cause of black discrimination and equality was furthered.
The conception is that men ruled the world, and now they must pay.
When my son turned 18, I accompanied him to the post office to register for selective service. I intended to register myself as well, even though I had already served during the VietNam 'conflict'.
I read on the form it was ILLEGAL for me to register, and I could be jailed or levied a hefty FINE for the attempt.
Maybe some of us latter day hippie chicks should get together to once again "burn our bras" by insisting on signing up for selective service.
...just a thought...
sweetebonyrose, we don't acknowledge any artificial patriarchy abstract here -- it's a code word for "male oppression," which is a social theory so un-nuanced, so childish, so gender-divisive that no serious person not drunk on Womyn's Studies prograpms buys into it. We could not care less about cult-like radical gender feminist teachings, which are largely laughable, except to the extent they hurt our children. Mainstream feminism was long ago rejected by the vast majority of women (and men, of course) because it abandoned classical feminism and became a combination religion and lobby for certain classes of women (not all, by any stretch of the imagination). Feminism is dead as a serious strain of thought.
As for men "abandoning their families or not taking respondsibility," I suspect that without knowing it, you are referring to the trend that was engendered by Great Society programs that decided it was a good idea to pay women to kick fathers out of the house. That's exactly what they did. Daniel Patrick Moynihan thought it was a terrible idea, but he was ignored, and it turned out he was right. The inner city went from 70% of all homes with fathers to 70% without. You know the rest of the story. Crime, promiscuity, dropping out of school -- all skyrockted. It hurt both boys and girls and destroyed the inner city. You probably aren't familiar with it, but before you stereotype men, you ougth to ask yourself how it happened. And you can thank the Democrats. If feminists were concerned about children, they would do everthing in their power to get dad back in the house instead of celebrating his absence as "empowerment" because virtually every social malady is greatly accented when there is no father in the house. I suspect you're not aware of the overwhelming studies that show kids generally do terribly when dad's not living with them. Trust me, I understand these issues well, and I know what the right answer it. Feminism and it's black-and-white revisionist history ain't it.
Sgt Mom -- great point about selective service. I am sick of the whining from a small, marginalized class of women who don't know what oppression is, and who don't know the first thing about our history or the sacrifices made by our forefathers to secure their right to invent man-hating cults.
Here you go, sweetebonyrose -- a fair and balanced look at why "patriarchy" is just flat-out silly: Is There Anything Good About Men?
I'd like to add one thing for seetebonyrose. Keep in mind that women who owe child support default at much higher numbers (almost 2:1) over men who owe child support.
And I challenge you, the next time you are on a feminist website, to ask them to justify Thisand how this woman is getting off with almost no punishment and yet at the same time ThisConsider why those at feminist sites rarely demand that women be punished or held equally accountable for their actions. In the 2 examples above, a 12 year old boy is being held to a higher standard (for a crime it doesn't even look like he committed), than a woman.
THAT is what feminism has done for this country. NOT society. Society didn't push for VAWA/TITLE IX/IMBRA.....you get the point.
I would challenge you to question on some of those feminist sites that if women are so "capable" and "empowered", why do they need all the special programs to give them a leg up? That sounds like special treatment, not equality.
" they wanted to frighten men into submission, and thus be able to do whatever it was wanted to do, without criticism from men."
Feminist used these same tactics, along with other to subdue men
http://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/
" I believe this can be explained because women are selfish. Nature made them that way. They only care about themselves and their own children. They dont care about your children (even when they look as if they do).
Remember the stereotypical "stage mom " ?
" Men, on the other hand, care about everybodys children, and this has been used against men, to suggest that there must be something 'wrong' with a man if he takes an interest in a childs education or welfare. "
Women have assisted feminists in attacking men at all angles and both inside and outside.
" this has been used against men, "
If it is a part of of male nature, women and feminists have and will continue to exploit and formulate propaganda against until stopped.
True Sgt. Mom, if there was ever a time owmen needed to fight for their men. You would fight if some hussy were trying to steal your man, wouldn't you? Feminism has become much worse. Imagine a bunch of women that don't want to steal your husband but, convince you to allow them to murder him. As for the idea of women being required to sign up for selective service, it would probably have as much success as convincing the U.S. Congress to raise the legal age to join the U.S. Military to age 47, even though men around this age are in far better shape than they were before the trend to get/be fit began.
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My first encounter with a 'feminist' was in a poly sci class, circa 1976. The homely female attorney was denouncing, among many other things, the 'unfairness' of veteran's points. 'Better' women were being passed over for job opportunities because of veteran's preference points, she claimed.
I timidly raised my hand and pointed out that *I* was a woman veteran, and taking away veteran's points would be unfair to me - a woman!
She haughtily sniffed :"Everyone knows women join the service to get a husband" and continued her 'equal rights' tirade unabated.
I've never been on board with 'feminism' since.
"As for men "abandoning their families or not taking respondsibility," I suspect that without knowing it, you are referring to the trend that was engendered by Great Society programs that decided it was a good idea to pay women to kick fathers out of the house"
Harlan, in what way are they paid..welfare, child support? Anyway, this seems to be a huge sweeping, generalizing statement. Not saying it doesn't happen, but still. There are indeed some men/boys who don't want to take respondsibility.
"If feminists were concerned about children, they would do everthing in their power to get dad back in the house instead of celebrating his absence as "empowerment""
Ummm, I think it's up to the dad and I have never heard of such a thing as celebrating a dad's absence from the home.
"I suspect you're not aware of the overwhelming studies that show kids generally do terribly when dad's not living with them."
Actually I am.
And Harlan I don't know about you but the feminism that I've looked up and read about don't hate men but the misogyny.
"...why do they need all the special programs to give them a leg up? That sounds like special treatment, not equality."
Interesting you should say that. Here's a link you could read. Sorry, I don't know how to do the shortcut thing. I would try it, but I'm not sure this blog has the preview option. I didn't see one.
http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2008/02/09/faq-female-privilege/
Anyway what programs are you talking about...affirmative action? I always seen that policy as a chance for qualified women and minorities to be simply looked at and considered, not automatically guareented a job.
There are indeed some men/boys who don't want to take respondsibility.And there are a lot more women who do. Otherwise, women wouldn't default on child support at a rate of almost 2:1 over men. And lets not forget that women/girls have the ability to avoid family in an unilateral way. Abortion! What is that but the complete avoidance of responsibility?
Ummm, I think it's up to the dad and I have never heard of such a thing as celebrating a dad's absence from the home.You should go sit in the back of Divorce Court sometime. It would be educational.
And Harlan I don't know about you but the feminism that I've looked up and read about don't hate men but the misogyny.I'll remember that the next time I'm called a 'woman hating asshole', such as has happened at several sites. Oh, but that won't happen because I've been banned for not kowtowing to the feminist mantra.
Anyway what programs are you talking about...affirmative action? I always seen that policy as a chance for qualified women and minorities to be simply looked at and considered, not automatically guareented a job.I'll keep that in mind when Title IX is ended. Funny, it didn't do a thing for most schools, except decrease the amount of revenue from the sports programs. It didn't do a thing to increase women's numbers in athletics (as that is what it is most used to promote).
And if women are so capable and qualified, why do they need special programs for consideration?
Answer: They don't. Affirmative action is sexist and racist.
sweetebonyrose, I do not appreciate your your refusal to investigate historical fact for yourself. You would do well to read about Daniel Patrick Moynihan (have you even heard of him?) and Great Society. I have neither the time nor the inclination to furnish remedial history lessons on this site. If you want to provide respectful comments -- as opposed to addressing me as "Harlan" and expressing your uninformed disbelief about matters beyond dispute, you may comment here.
Wolfboy, we should do a piece on Aid to Families with Dependent Children, and how it was probably the single most damaging piece of legislation for children -- because of the "man out of the house" rule.
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