The following article is shockingly candid, must-reading -- an expert confirms what every serious study of false rape claims has found: false claims are an epidemic (spend several hours reviewing the data found on this Web site before you disagree). This is an interview with an inspector detective who is "in the trenches" on rape. Listen to what he says: “We have anything up to four or five reports of rape every weekend but a large number of complaints turn out to be something else with some not thinking about the consequences of false allegations . . . ." Did you get that? A "large number." And: “Most weekends we also have a report from somebody saying their drink has been spiked with rohypnol – while we have had cases where women have been drugged these are extremely rare." Did you get that? "Extremely rare." And ever wonder why the rape conviction rates are so low? “We actually have significantly less genuine rape cases than those reported so it is important to consider the percentage of bona fide reports when looking at conviction statistics, which appear low because they encompass all reports." Although he pays lip service at the end of the article to the concept of underreporting (a phenomenon I have grown to believe is vastly overstated), there is no way to put an accurate figure on underreporting, given the faulty surveys the underreporting stats are based on.
A detective inspector explains the process involved in a rape investigation
By Nicola Davies
DOUGIE Shaw has been a detective inspector for 11 years and takes managerial responsibility for investigations of stranger and acquaintance rapes in Warrington.
“Stranger rapes are very rare, there have only been two in the last 12 months to my recollection,” he said.
“The vast majority is committed by people who know their victim – most predators don’t jump out from behind bushes, they will take you for a drink.
“There are five considerations with any investigation. Firstly, there is a victim that needs to be dealt with properly in terms of forensic issues, statements, after care and support.
“Then there is the forensic examination of any scenes, followed by a trawl for witnesses and that may be via house to house enquires, from CCTV or relatives.
“Fourthly, there is an offender who needs to be dealt with appropriately – when he is arrested he will be swabbed and interviewed by properly trained officers.
“Lastly, resources need to be matched to these to make sure they are all completed and I will open a policy book so all my decisions are recorded for transparency.
“It is important to have a swift police response as the critical part of a rape investigation is gathering forensic evidence and from the time the rape takes place evidence is immediately being lost.
“We have anything up to four or five reports of rape every weekend but a large number of complaints turn out to be something else with some not thinking about the consequences of false allegations but we always take allegations of rape seriously and do everything we can to gather evidence.
“Most weekends we also have a report from somebody saying their drink has been spiked with rohypnol – while we have had cases where women have been drugged these are extremely rare.
“We actually have significantly less genuine rape cases than those reported so it is important to consider the percentage of bona fide reports when looking at conviction statistics, which appear low because they encompass all reports.
“We then report the facts to the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) for a prosecution review. They will look at the evidence to see if there is a realistic prospect of a successful conviction and there can come a point we can’t do anything if there is insufficient evidence.
“Likewise, if a victim decides to withdraw their complaint we cannot prove the issue of consent, which is central in a rape allegation so it is vital victims have confidence that they will be supported and dealt with properly.
“There are a large number of rapes that have not yet been reported. I would implore those people to come forward – especially male victims who we see infrequently – as there is every chance we can gather the evidence to successfully prosecute their attacker.”
Link: http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/search/4103217.A_detective_inspector_explains_the_process_involved_in_a_rape_investigation/
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"if a victim decides to withdraw their complaint we cannot prove the issue of consent"
Sounds pretty much like the opposite of the U.S., where innocence must be proven, and where a woman who tries to drop a rape charge is automatically assumed to be doing it because she "lives in fear of her attacker", is operating under a "false conscience", or etc.
The real rapists are already in prison. Many if not most of rape accusations are now just lies. When is society going to recognize this epidemic and do something about it? What these women are doing to men is much worse than rape, and worse than anything men have ever done to women.
You'll note that detective Shaw also uses the term "victim" instead of the more legally appropriate and accurate term: "accuser"
Reading his article, it's far from convincing that he's all all neutral on the subject of rape. Seems to me he is very pro-female and anti-male. He doesn't even seem to bat an eye at the crime of false reporting. It's just part of the job for him.
Which may make his admission of the large number of false rape accusations that much more noteworthy.
The comments that I highlighted at the outset are very, very unusual for a story of this nature. A sexual assault counselor would never admit those things, and I can't recall a police officer allowing himself or herself to be quoted with such candor. His words can only be interpreted to mean that false rape claims are an epidemic.
Elusive Wapiti is correct that the officer does not state that these false rape claims are being prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I don't believe that police officers are generally pro-female on the subject of false rape claims, because most are male, and non-feminist, and most understand that they are sitting targets for such claims -- probably after the teaching profession, their profession is the one most at risk. I suspect they are at least somewhat wary of all claims of rape, as they should be. By the same token, few false rape claims are taken seriously by the police or prosecutors. As such, this officer's attitude on that front seems consistent with most other non-feminist, likely-wary-of-false-claims officers.
As for underreporting, almost everyone repeats that. I concede there probably is somenderreporting -- but I know for a fact there is a great deal of OVER-reporting (reporting claims that never occurred).
Misinformation that foments a prejudice against men, should be considered a hate crime.
When feminist university professors say that "women never, ever, ever lie about rape....ever and if they do, it's only 2% of the time"...these quack/hysterics should be removed from their posts.
Scott, I totally agree. I have grown less and less tolerant of their falsehoods that false rape claims are a "myth" -- their favorite word, as in, "Rape myths persist, including . . . the myth that women lie about rape."
Since my false rape accusation, i see women as a sort of liability. Then it came to me today, that lie-ablilty(the ability to lie well), may actually be where the word liability comes from.People who lie well, are in fact a liability to be around.
" Since my false rape accusation, i see women as a sort of liability. Then it came to me today, that lie-ablilty(the ability to lie well), may actually be where the word liability comes from.People who lie well, are in fact a liability to be around. " I know what you mean Scott. I was the victim of a false aggravated assault accusation a few years ago. It didn't matter to the prosecutors,or the worthless public defender I had, that the "victim" forgot the intricate and lie-a-bilous account she gave the police officers, who were more than happey to arrest a soldier. They still ,based only on her word (no gun) proceeded to seek a conviction against me. Her lies ruined my life.
When police/courts enable women to lie with impunity, they in fact make them a lieability.
When police/courts enable women to lie with impunity, they in fact make them a lieability.
They also are helping to manufacture the statistics to get more of the federal dollar for programs.
It is sad that our judicial system has gotten to the point where it seems to reward the criminals and punish the innocent. Too bad we have done away with "Innocent until proven guilty" (at least when it comes to rape). It was a nice system while we had it.
For a feminist freak any conscience is a bad conscience.
"Misinformation that foments a prejudice against men, should be considered a hate crime"
also, a lot of the stuff that is said about men these days, especially on college campuses in women's studies (feminist indoctrination) courses, should be classified as hate speech. If any other class of people were targeted this way, say African-Americans or Gay people, it would be considered just that.
Do you happen to have a copy of the original text of this article?
it seems to have fallen through the memory hole.
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