A teenager goes public claiming she was raped by a 23-year-old man but the, um, evil prosecutor refused to bring charges. See here
Well, even the post goes on to admit that court papers show "both [parties] said they had an ongoing sexual relationship." And -- the important sentence: "The prosecutor concluded that the Crystal and the man had had consensual sex."
The post goes on to ask, rhetorically: "Since when does having having a relationship with someone mean they can't rape you?"
OK, now I'm lost. The post assumes a rape occurred even though the prosecutor concluded sex was consensual.
What part of the word "consensual" doesn't the writer understand?
There is no indication that the prosecutor's conclusion was based solely on the fact that the parties had a relationship. To assume that is the case is nothing short of absurd wishfulness on the part of someone so caught up in her own victim mentality that she can't see reality.
A relationship is a factor to be considered in determining whether sex was consensual but it is not dispositive.
The author of the post has decided that the young woman must have been raped because she said she was. The prosecutor, obviously, was wrong in reaching the conclusion that sex was consensual, regardless of what the facts showed.
It must be convenient to parse out information that doesn't agree with your world view-- you could win every argument by doing that.
The saddest thing is that the author of this post likely has so deluded herself that she actually believes what she wrote. That's what happens when you view the world through a gender lens, where every act becomes "evidence" of another instance where women are victimized by men and the world men run. How frighteningly naive. For their own mental health they need to start looking at the world for what it is: a countless variety of greys with very few black and whites, and oppression coming from all different directions.
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From what I gather, it sounds as if she really wanted to be raped so she could get her chance to play a victim and get heaps of pity. Her percieved anger at the prosecution for finding no rape has been committed only buttresses my hunch.
All through the comments, "Misogyny" is being blamed as the reason this wasn't prosecuted.
I would be curious to find something out:
They had an ongoing relationship....when did it start? How old did she tell him she was?
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0516081crystal1.html
This gives a bit more information about the whole thing.
She met this guy at a party, was drinking and doing drugs, but only he is responsible for his actions. She isn't. /sarcasm on (must be nice to have no responsibilities) /sarcasm off
Q Okay, so you gave in willingly?
A (No verbal response).
Q Is that a yes?
A Yes.
Q Okay. But at this time he know.. does he know that you’re fifteen or did you tell him that you were older?
A Oh everybody told him I was fifteen.
This is what I love. She states she had sex willingly, and that everyone else told him that she was fifteen. Never mind that there is no supporting evidence that anyone else told him she was fifteen (she didn't say that she told him).
This is a bunch of garbage.
It states in the prosectors notations (Speaking about the father):
"He has full knowledge of the crystal’s lifestyle and his is similar."
From what I can tell from the documentation, this girl drinks and does drugs on a regular basis. Her word is about as trustworthy as Rod Blagojevich (Sorry, I'm from Illinois and couldn't resist)
Sorry for the multitude of posts, but this one is under my skin.
Why is it that feminism has always used lies and half-truths to distort things for thier empowerment. Wouldn't honesty have moved society in the same direction? As it stands, Feminist attitudes will likely push more and more men into one of two camps...those who just walk away from any relationships with women, or those who will fight back with any means necessary to regain equal footing (I say equal footing as men are below zero on the equality scale).
Give feminists thier due, they realized early to play to the more emotional nature of women and the protective nature of men to get what they wanted - POWER.
What the FRM/MRM/MGTOW movement needs to do, is exactly what this site does.... It shows the truth about the nature of feminism, and of the way in which men are consistently punished...for simply being men. It will still take some time, but ultimately, I believe that feminism will fall, mainly, because sooner or later, the majority of people will get tired of the "Victim" whine.
spell check, spell check, spell check.
in my second post:
prosectors should be prosecutors
and
"He has full knowledge of the crystal’s lifestyle and his is similar."
should be
"He has full knowledge of crystal’s lifestyle and his is similar."
Wolfboy, your comments are always welcome here!
You've hit upon an important point: honesty. I sincerely believe that a lot more men, and women, would be allied with the feminists on raising awareness about rape, etc. if only the feminists' entire goal were not to cast men as villians. (And please, feminists, spare me the blather about Feminism 101 -- I understand every "rape" issue better than you do.) Feminists honestly think that they need to minimize the reality of false rape claims in order to raise awareness about rape.
First, that approach is a lie. Second, we have reached a stage in our culture where forcing women to have sex against their will is almost universally decried as criminal and immoral. Acknowledging that some women do bad things, too, would only enhance the feminists' credibility. Right now, that is in short supply in that sad, tired movement.
Feminism is fading and it will never, ever be mainstream (and guys, it is not mainstream - chivalry hurts men more than feminism ever could) until feminists ditch the victim mentality that insists maleness is poisonous to women.
Yikes -- Anonymous, I'm sorry. I read your original comment way too fast and jumped to an unwarranted conclusion. Please forgive me.
Wofboy's comments are right on the mark, as always.
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